Two What? For A Steak?!?!?

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Right now there’s a lot of clamor over the changes to the Disney Dining Plan for 2011.  The one change that has everyone talking the most has to be the changes to Le Cellier.  In case you missed it, starting in March of 2011 a Dinner at Le Cellier will cost 2 table service credits – Lunch will remain 1 table service credit.  You may recall that it was just a few years ago that this same restaurant was changed from 2 credits to 1 credit.

Well I’m here to tell you that the world did not end before when it was 2 credits and it’s not going to end now.  In the end, Le Cellier is back to what it was before an overpriced, but good steakhouse.  Yes pretzel bread rocks, but the actual pretzels over in the Germany Pavilion are better.  Cheddar Cheese soup is yummy from what I remember before my bacon eating days came to an end.  And then there’s that strip steak, a.k.a. “The Scopa Special”, a delectable morsel that can’t be matched anywhere on property… wrong!

But before I get into that I want to tell you about a little restaurant.  The restaurant that almost wasn’t.  So often I have friends say that Disney is constantly taking so much away from guests these past several years, but seldom do I hear them talk about the things that Disney has done for guests.  And I can think of one clear case where they did it because the guests practically demanded that they do.

Disney’s Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa had it’s grand opening celebration during the DVC Member Homecoming in May of 2004.  There was a lot of fanfare, fireworks, Jodi Benson singing, etc.  While there was counter service to be found in the Artist’s Palette, there was something missing – table service dining was nowhere to be found at the resort.

This caused quite an uproar.  The resort received numerous complaints about this both in person and in visitor satisfaction surveys.  DVC members complained.  And when push came to shove, Jim Lewis announced on the 2005 DVC Member Cruise that table service dining would be coming to Saratoga Springs as the Turf Club Bar and Grill.

It would play off the horse racing motif of the resort, and be built on the rear side of the resorts main building between Artist’s Palette and the patio.  This was an ambitious project, as at the time, they weren’t just adding in a restaurant, but an entire full service kitchen as well to support that restaurant as one had not been there prior.  Construction went at a furious pace, and in July of 2007 the restaurant opened.

At this time, my wife, Cheryl, and I were already Florida residents for just over 2 years, and we were excited.  So we made a day of it, and headed to the restaurant on it’s first day of being opened to the public to have lunch.  With little fanfare we were asked if we wanted to seat inside or outside, it was a gorgeous day so we chose outside – though about to rain, you know a typical Orlando summer day.  After being seated we learned that we were the very first guests to dine on the patio.

And we’ve come to love this restaurant over the years.  It’s a true hidden gem of Walt Disney World.  It’s seldom crowded or overbooked.  I’ve never had a case where I couldn’t get a reservation here, or just walk up.  Unlike Le Cellier where we all fight for a meal there.  The food is consistently good, and the Chefs have always done an excellent job catering to Cheryl’s special dining needs.

For my very first meal there I had the Classic Reuben Sandwich, and Cheryl had the Penne Pasta with Vegetables (no longer on the menu).  To me that Reuben was among the best I’ve ever had: crispy, soft, juicy, bitter, and salty all at once.  Everything a Reuben should be.  These days I no longer mix milk and meat for religious reasons, but if I did, this is a sandwich I’d have.

So what about the Steak? Well, the Turf Club has a New York Strip Steak on their menu that is equally as good as the one you’ll find at Le Cellier.  While it can be served to you any way you like, the recommended methods are either topped with blue cheese, portobello mushrooms, and a balsamic port glaze or topped with crab meat and grain mustard.  For me just give me the port glaze and keep the rest off.  Medium, in case you were wondering.

All that aside though, let me tell you about the meal I keep coming back for. For starters the bread.  Okay, it’s a simple crusted wheat loaf with some oats, but what I truly love is the pinkish rock salt they sprinkle on top of the butter.  I’d never had this before I had it at Turf Club, but it’s such a great flavor with that bread.  Yummy, especially on those cold days we sometimes get down here in Florida – you know, the ones below 70 degrees (thin blood, sorry).

While munching my bread I’ll order my drink.  And few non-alcoholic beverages are better on WDW property than the Turf Club’s Blackberry Lemonade.  Thirst quenching, tart, tangy, and sweet – just don’t drink too many, there are a lot of calories in that glass.  And with such a great drink, you need a truly great appetizer, and that can be found in the Onion Rings with Dips.  Big and crunchy, these are sure to please as is or covered in one of the dips.

And then there’s the entree.  Now I know there’s always a lot of discussion among the Disney fan community as to what the best burger on property is.  Two things always come up right?  Pecos Bill’s and Beaches & Cream.  And I’ll admit, both of these are great burgers, and you won’t see me turning either down.  But to me they both have drawbacks, one, despite being Angus beef, is a frozen pre-made patty, and the other is fried.  I prefer a grilled steakhouse style burger, and that’s what I get with the Turf Club’s Angus Chuck Burger.  Juicy and lean this burger is always a pleaser, and it comes with a plate of dressings arranged in a familiar pattern.

As a side, I’d skip the fries.  Not that they’re bad, but the Turf Club has something much better than mere french fries to have alongside your burger.  Thick, crispy, not greasy potato chips – tiny packages of carb loaded goodness.  This is the one item that Disney had to feature at their Saratoga Springs resort, because the potato chip was invented in the real Saratoga Springs.  To not have it would have been a travesty of epic proportions.  Even if you’re not getting the burger order a plate of these for the table, just to try.

Once upon a time the Turf Club used to have a chocolate lava cake dessert, and I’d have recommended it, but it was a logistical nightmare for the restaurant as it took 20 minutes to prepare, and generally guests don’t like to make decisions about desert mid-meal.  Off the current menu, I’d personally go for the Apple Pie.  However, like most Disney restaurants, if there’s something not on the menu that you want they’ll make it for you.  Gluten and dairy free brownie sundae anyone?

If you’re looking for a restaurant with a comfortable, warm, atmosphere that has a fantastic serene view – especially one where this time next year you’ll still be able to get a New York Strip Steak for 1 table service credit on the Dining Plan, I can only say head to the Turf Club, you won’t be disappointed.

What about you? Have you been to Turf Club?  How was it?  What did you have?  If not, are you planning to go?  Where else do you like to get a steak at WDW?  Thanks for enjoying this meal with me.  Yum!

Turf Club Lunch Menu
Turf Club Dinner Menu

This post is featured in Disney Food Post Round-Up: August 15, 2010

Todd Perlmutter

Todd is a Central Florida local who just so happens to be a mega geeky Disney, tech, and gaming nerd. Lives or dies by his iPhone - it spending a significant amount of time in his hand while he's at Walt Disney World. In addition to being blogger here at he is also a developer working on the Touring Plans Engine, the Chief Technical Officer for The Disney Driven Life, and co-host of the Disney Film Project Podcast. Loves his wife (@cherylp3) and pup (@DisneyDoggie). You can reach Todd via Twitter (@tperlmutter) or Facebook (tperlmutter).

29 thoughts on “Two What? For A Steak?!?!?

  • August 12, 2010 at 7:31 am

    Turf Club is my favorite hidden restaurant. Easy to get into and great food. Service is slow here, but it’s still a great option!

    • August 12, 2010 at 5:53 pm

      Hey Matt! I completely agree, the service at Turf Club is a bit slow, but at the same time it’s relaxing – they never seem to be rushing me out of there either, which I do get the feeling of at some of the more popular Disney restaurants.

  • August 12, 2010 at 10:04 am

    I have heard a lot of good things about the Turf Club. (Onion rings and blackberry lemonade frequently being mentioned.) We will have to put it on our list to try. Thanks for the report and pictures, Todd.

    When I read about the change for Le Cellier, my first thought was that maybe now I’ll be able to get a reservation there. We never use the dining plan, it’s just not our thing, so I have to admit that it doesn’t have a negative impact on us. I think that this is a pretty simple case of supply and demand.

    • August 12, 2010 at 6:00 pm

      I agree to a point. The other WDW restaurants that are signature dining actually feel like there’s something special or a step above to give them that designation. Le Cellier, while still a good restaurant, isn’t quite at it’s peak in quality a few years ago. I’ll be the same in March 2011 as it was in February 2011. I just don’t see the reasoning. Personally I’m not gonna ever spend my meal credits there, though I would go on cash.

      I’m also thinking that we’ll see a corresponding price increase on their menu next year to match this status as dishes at Signature restaurants tend to cost a few dollars more generally speaking.

      That said, glad you’re now planning to try out Turf Club.

      • August 12, 2010 at 9:55 pm

        >I just don’t see the reasoning.<
        The reasoning is pretty simple—they could fill the place five times over as it stands now. Not raising the "price" leaves money on the table—and Mickey *hates* leaving money on the table.

        As for Turf Club—I've been meaning to try it. I just moved my solo trip from SSR to BWV for next February, and am bummed that this probably means no Turf Club, again.

        • August 12, 2010 at 10:03 pm

          Yeah but even if the price of every dish raised $10 it still wouldn’t be worth 2 credits. Not unless they also raise the class of service. Not that the staff there isn’t nice, it’s just not signature service.

          • August 13, 2010 at 6:41 am

            It wouldn’t be to you, or many others. But, as long as there are still enough people who *would* eat there at 2 to fill the place, it doesn’t matter to Disney.

  • August 12, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    This reminds me that sometimes these out of the way places don’t seem to get the credit they deserve. One of the best meals I ever had at WDW was at Olivia’s Cafe. The bread there is also very yummy and I made a meal of some of the best chicken wings I ever had. Desserts also please everyone in our party.

    • August 12, 2010 at 6:06 pm

      I’ve had some good meals at Olivia’s – though I don’t miss the conch fritters, I’m one of those people who find conch very bitter instead of sweet. But you’re right, there are a number of restaurants on property that often get overlooked.

  • August 12, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Best steak I had on our last trip was the Teriyaki steak at Kona Cafe, and you don’t have to call at the 180-day mark to get an ADR there!

    • August 12, 2010 at 8:51 pm

      Yup that’s definitely a great steak. I’m also a big fan of the Flat Iron Steak at the Wave. Also a place that is relatively easy to get in to.

  • August 12, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    I’m reluctant to pay 1 credit for a crappy meal at Le Cellier, let alone 2. I was really looking forward to trying out the great Le Cellier on my last trip a couple of years back, and was left very disappointed. Good luck with that.

    • August 12, 2010 at 9:43 pm

      I just really think people are better off using 2 credits at another signature dining restaurant and then paying cash for Le Cellier.

  • August 13, 2010 at 5:37 am

    im so hungry when i see the Bico’s Bill’s….


  • August 13, 2010 at 7:02 am

    I’ve eaten at Le Cellier twice now and although ok, it’s not worth 2 credits.

  • August 13, 2010 at 7:35 am

    Agree that Le Cellier is just not worth 2 dining credits. We eat there almost every time we are in WDW…my husband love it. It’s good but not worth the wait(it always stresses me out…even with ressie it seems like we have to wait forever), and now not worth the 2 dining credits. We’ll definitely try Turf Club…have heard a lot of good reviews. Thanks, Todd!

    • August 13, 2010 at 10:19 am

      Thanks for taking the time to comment.

      Yeah, everyone one should realize that I do still like Le Cellier. In fact I have a reservation there in the fall for my Stepfather’s & my birthday bonanza. Just that it’s either worth 1 credit or cash, not 2 credits. And only because the food alone doesn’t make a restaurant signature.

  • August 13, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Well I finally snagged a dinner ressie at Le Cellier in Sept. after trying for years. We’ve eaten lunch there and really liked it. And now they’re changing it to a 2 ts credit meal. Figures… We’ll just go at lunch in the future,it’s not worth 2 credits! And thanks for the heads up on the Turf Club most of my favorite restaurants are at the hotels. We’ll give it a try.

    • August 13, 2010 at 1:43 pm

      Don’t get discouraged, you should still go, but like I said, spend 2 credits where it’s worth it, and use cash for that dinner.

      • August 13, 2010 at 3:31 pm

        Oh I’m not changing the Sept reservation, no way! We’ll savor every morsel while it’s still a 1 ts credit meal! But next year I’ll probably try a new restaurant in World Showcase for dinner and go to Le Cellier for lunch or if my dh and I are there by ourselves again we’ll pay cash.

  • August 13, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Great blog Todd! We love love love the Turf Club! Caesar Salad is awesome! Food is good and can get right in. I just hope all the recent buzz surrounding the Turf Club doesn’t change this!

    • August 15, 2010 at 10:28 pm

      Yeah a slippery slope indeed. On the one hand a popular restaurant has a better chance at remaining then a less traveled one, but at the same time we want to reserve those special places for ourselves. Another perfect example is Sanaa.

  • August 14, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Going to Turf Club for the FIRST TIME this Fall! Thanks for mouth-watering blog post, T-Perl (that’s my rapper name for you).

    • August 15, 2010 at 10:33 pm

      Heh… you are not the first to try to rapify my name.

      Cool, I think you’ll have a great time. If you’d like company there just let Cheryl and I know 🙂

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  • August 15, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    We’d already decided we weren’t planning on going back to Le Cellier – last two trips were just overly disappointing. The very last time was better, but still not good enough to justify the price… and DEFINITELY doesn’t justify two table credits were we to be on the DDP again (we are recent TIW converts).

    • August 15, 2010 at 10:43 pm

      Was it the food or the service that you found most disappointing?

      I think that Tables in Wonderland (TIW) is a big help with the sticker shock of WDW restaurant bills.

  • August 16, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Todd, I was amazed to get an Oct. res at Le Cellier – an opening just popped up. I’ve never been and hope it lives up to ratings. I was also considering Sanaa. What do you mean by “Another perfect example is Sanaa”?

    • August 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm

      Just that I find Sanaa to be one of those hidden gems on property like Turf Club is. Though I’ll admit that last night Sanaa seemed to get more full than I’d ever seen it before – so maybe that’s changing some (as in “not so hidden anymore”). Sanaa also has a strip steak, but I’ve not tried it yet. Was going to last night, but they plied me with Salmon as the sustainable fish.

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