Disney Data Dump November 16

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It’s been a couple of weeks! And lots has been happening in the parks. Apparently when I was out on the west coast in a cruise ship, a hurricane developed and decided to visit Orlando. What a weird late fall! So what is the overall impact on the data when a hurricane collides with Jersey week? We were predicting low crowds in very early November, and then higher crowds for Jersey week and into the holiday weekend. But hurricanes have this funny way of clearing people out of the parks. So let’s see how all of that combined!

Observed Crowd Levels 11/1 – 11/14

Observed crowd levels from November 1st through 14th, 2022

As predicted in my last post (two whole weeks ago!), the beginning of November started out with nice mild crowds. We were right in the heart of non-school-break season, and it shows. And then, also as predicted, things started picking up significantly as we headed into “Jersey week”, that time of year when a bunch of schools are off for fall break and/or Veterans Day (which was on Friday this year).

But of course the data couldn’t stay nice and clean, because Hurricane Nicole had to make her grand entrance. As a result, the parks closed early on November 9th and opened late on November 10th. The major airports also closed, which has an impact on folks expecting to fly in to start their vacations. So the week of 11/7 could have been a lot worse, as far as crowd levels. I would have expected a few more 8s instead of the hurricane-induced dip that we saw.

Observed crowd levels at Magic Kingdom from November 1st through 14th, 2022

Even with the mess of a hurricane coming through, this two-week view is a really great example of how parties impact crowds at Magic Kingdom. From November 1st through 6th, we were in the short-lived non-party season. Things stayed steady and moderate. And then parties started! November 7th was a nightmare. Crowd level 9 as everyone looked to avoid the first party day. From then on out, all of the party days were crowd level 4 or less, and all non-party days were crowd level 5 or higher. That’s not a big difference, thanks to hurricane weirdness. It’ll look much more like the party/non-party cycle next week as things get back to “normal”.

How our predictions performed from November 1st through 14th

Each week, I’m giving you a very transparent look into how our crowd level predictions performed. Each day at each park is one data point, so we have 28 different crowd level predictions to evaluate each week. This time we’re looking at two weeks at once, so we have a wealth of data! 56 different predictions. Any time a prediction is within one or two crowd levels, things won’t really “feel” much different than what we predicted. Being off by 3 or more crowd levels is where we’d like to be more accurate because you might feel that difference in wait times throughout the day.

In the past two weeks, our predictions were either spot-on or within 1 crowd level 64% of the time. 84% of the time we were within 2 crowd levels, and that means we earn an B for our predictions these past two weeks. About the same as the last week. On 9 different park days (out of 56), we missed crowds by 3 or more crowd levels. The worse miss was an underprediction of 5 crowd levels at Magic Kingdom on November 7th. For some unknown reason the crowd calendar was predicting a 4, even though this was the start of Jersey week, and a lot of schools across the country were out of class. I … don’t know why that happened, since the actual crowds were a 9. Much more in line with what we’ve come to expect for Jersey week crowds. Especially since most humans like starting their week-long vacation at Magic Kingdom.

Attraction Downtime 11/1 – 11/14

If we average out all of the capacity lost due to unexpected downtime over the past two weeks, it comes out to 3.6% of attractions unexpectedly being down. This is essentially the same as the last week, and is much much better than the last hurricane week we saw. The park with the biggest issues was Hollywood Studios, with 6.6% of capacity its lost due to unexpected downtime.

The single worst day for attraction downtime in the past week was November 11th. On that day, 7% of all capacity at WDW was lost due to unexpected downtime. It’s interesting that this wasn’t the 10th – parks were closed long enough that everything got back up and running for when they did open. The single worst park-day of the week on November 9th at Hollywood Studios. On that day, 16% of the the capacity at that park was lost due to unexpected downtime. That’s really really bad. Hollywood Studios was open for 9.5 hours on that day, so 16% downtime is the equivalent of the whole park being down for 1.5 hours out of those 9.5 hours. This potentially had an impact on crowd level, which was expected to be a 6 and ended up being an 8.

Attraction Downtime

The worst offender was Rise of the Resistance, which was unexpectedly down for approximately 14% of the week. Our favorite most unreliable attraction was down for 20% or more of the day 5 different times over the past week. Coming in 2nd and 3rd place for unreliability this week were Rock’n’Roller Coaster, which was offline for 12% of the week, and Test Track, which was offline for 11% of the week.

Is it these guys that cause all of the downtime? Do they need some time off?

Rope Drop Downtime

Here are this week’s problematic offenders:

  • Magic Kingdom: Big Thunder Mountain Railroad (unavailable for 32% of its first hour of the day), Haunted Mansion (unavailable for 26% of its first hour of the day), and Splash Mountain (unavailable for 17% of its first hour of the day)
  • EPCOT: The Seas with Nemo & Friends (unavailable for 15% of its first hour of the day)
  • Hollywood Studios: Rise of the Resistance (unavailable for 30% of its first hour of the day), Rock’n’Roller Coaster (unavailable for 20% of its first hour of the day and Runaway Railway (unavailable for 20% of its first hour of the day)
  • Animal Kingdom: No real problems! “Worst offender” was Expedition Everest, and it was only down ~5% of the first hour of the day.

The “left side” of the park continues to be a problem at Magic Kingdom. This unfortunately has a big impact on folks that don’t have early entry, since those lands open at regular park opening and should be like a regular rope drop. Just be prepared with backup plans. Thankfully the headliners at EPCOT were more reliable in opening hour this week, just like all of the rides at Animal Kingdom were. Hollywood Studios is another issue. Rise of the Resistance have a 2-out-of-3 chance of being open in the morning is not great odds, especially since it’s otherwise a really excellent rope drop choice.

It might take the wildest wide in the west a little while to wake up in the morning!

Wait Times 11/1 – 11/14

Attractions with the Highest Average Wait at each park

  • Hollywood Studios: Rise of the Resistance, average posted wait time of 87 minutes (85 two weeks ago)
  • Animal KingdomFlight of Passage, average posted wait time of 104 minutes (90 two weeks ago)
  • EPCOT: Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure, average posted wait time of 76 minutes (65 two weeks ago at Frozen Ever After)
  • Magic KingdomSeven Dwarfs Mine Train, average posted wait time of 63 minutes (55 last week)

These posted wait times are inching back up. Thanks to Nicole barreling through, they’re not as bad as what we saw in mid-October. But the averages would have been much worse without those park and airport closures. They’ll get even more … “fun” the week of Thanksgiving.

Remy takes back the crown for longest wait in EPCOT – but who will win next week?

Parks with the Highest and Lowest Average Wait

These parks likely won’t change week-to-week unless something ridiculous happens, but these data points will give us a high-level view of how wait times are trending from week to week.

  • Highest: Hollywood Studios, average park-wide posted wait of 45.5 minutes (two weeks ago 41 minutes)
  • Lowest: Magic Kingdom, average park-wide posted wait of 25 minutes (two weeks ago 21 minutes)

Thanks to those lower-crowd party days, Magic Kingdom continues to have the lowest average wait times. Hollywood Studios’ average wait time is really high, partially thanks to popularity, and partially thanks to all of that downtime throughout the two weeks.

Most Inflated Posted Wait Times

We all know that Disney inflates their posted wait times on purpose. They have many reasons for doing this. Some are totally understandable, and some are potentially more problematic. We can figure out how much posted wait times are being inflated by comparing submitted actual wait times from the Lines App and the posted wait time when the person timing their wait entered the line.

From November 1st through 14th, actual wait times in the Lines App averaged 68% of what was posted. So if the posted wait time was 20 minutes, you could’ve expected to wait just over 13.5 minutes instead.

But the worst offender for the week was Tower of Terror. This is the same attraction as two weeks ago! Our first repeat loser. At this one attraction, submitted actual wait times were 47% of posted wait times. That means if Tower of Terror had a 30 minute posted wait, you probably would’ve waited just over 14 minutes. Under half of what was posted. Remember to always check the Lines app for predicted actual waits instead of believing what is posted.

Don’t skip the ride! And don’t trust the posted wait time.

Looking Ahead: November 15th through 21st

Since it takes time to pull data and write a post, you’ll be reading this on the 16th when the 15th is already in the past. But we’re staying as close to real-time as possible.

The crowd calendar predicts that crowds will remain relatively moderate until the weekend, and as we move into Thanksgiving week things will get crazier again. Given that we were underpredicting crowds before the hurricane rolled through, I’d say to not be surprised if crowd levels sneak up a little higher than what we’re predicting right now. And that start of Thanksgiving weeks is going to be very crowded.

Christmas parties will be happening at the Magic Kingdom on the 15th, 17th, 18th and 20th. That means that the 16th and 19th should be very crowded, and those party days should be much nicer.

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Becky Gandillon

Becky Gandillon was trained in biomedical engineering, but is now a full-time data and analytics nerd. She loves problem solving and travelling. She and her husband, Jeff, live in St. Louis with their two daughters and they have Disney family movie night every Saturday. You can follow her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/becky-gandillon/ or instagram @raisingminniemes

4 thoughts on “Disney Data Dump November 16

  • November 16, 2022 at 12:05 pm
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    I was in Magic Kingdom on Nov 7th. From talking to people, there were a lot of people who had been part of Run Disney staying on a few days. Many others said their kids’ schools were being used for voting on Tuesday so they’d decided to make it a long weekend. It felt very crowded.

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    • November 16, 2022 at 6:31 pm
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      It felt very crowded and was very crowded! Hope you had a good day anyway 🙂

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  • November 17, 2022 at 2:33 am
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    Ummm, Becky? Veterans Day is *always* 11/11. Wouldn’t want to confuse our international friends!

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    • November 17, 2022 at 8:08 am
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      Ha! Thank you for the catch. In my brain, I wrote “which was on Friday this year”, and somehow it converted itself to the date as my fingers typed furiously. Fixed!

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