What I Learned About Genie+ At Disneyland

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In late April of this year, my husband and I took our first ever trip to Disneyland. We were on a rare trip away from the small humans that dominate our lives, so our time was limited. That meant that we only had two days to experience the best of what both parks had to offer. So I did the reasonable thing and … analyzed the data. What was going to be possible? How disappointed would I be in things that I would inevitably miss? And, yes, should I bite the bullet and purchase Genie+ to help me skip through some lines?

I even got my husband to Disneybound with me. Come on, what could be better than that? We cute.

If you’ve read any of my articles or watched any of my YouTube episodes about Genie+ at Disneyland, you already know that it’s SO MUCH EASIER than at Walt Disney World. You still save tons of time, but it comes with almost none of the stress of the WDW version. That’s mostly due to two things: slightly different rules and much lower demand thanks to Disneyland being a “locals park” and Walt Disney World being the Vacation Kingdom of the World. I’m not going to go through a step-by-step analysis of what we did (because, even as a reluctantly-labelled Genie expert, I still get things wrong). But I will share what I learned and tips that I have if you are considering purchasing Genie+ for your next Disneyland trip.

Which Rules Are Different?

If you’re familiar with Genie+ at WDW – and, let’s face it, there’s much more information available about that version – there are some key differences that you need to be aware of at Disneyland.

  1. The cost is higher – you’ll be paying $20 per person per day for Genie+ at Disneyland (compared to $15+tax at WDW).
  2. In fact, we may have taken _too_ many pictures. After seeing them, my 6-year-old was convinced that my hand got stuck to my ear from playing Dolores too much.

    PhotoPass is included – this value is significant, especially if you have a smaller party and love taking pictures. It inspired my husband and I to make many more photo stops than we normally do.

  3. You can’t make your first selection at 7 am. In fact, you can’t make any selections at all until you tap into the park. And – gasp – you sometimes might want to wait even later than that. Blasphemy! Nonsense!
  4. If you care about Individual Lightning Lane, those work differently too. You can’t pick your return times for those like you can at WDW. It’s just first available, like every other selection in Genie+.
  5. Also – minor difference – park hopping at Disneyland is at 1 pm instead of 2 pm, so picking selections for your 2nd park only kicks out the return times to 1 pm or later instead of 2 pm or later.

Early Morning Strategy One – Reserving at First Park

Let’s say that you’re starting the day in the park where you also want to use Genie+. Or that you’re not park hopping at all (I highly recommend park hopping at Disneyland even though I never do it at WDW, but that’s another post for another day).

In this case, you could immediately start making reservations as soon as you tap into the park. Let’s say, for example, that the park opens at 8 am. If that’s the case, then security will usually open at 7:15, and tapstiles will start letting you into the park by 7:30. So if you’re an early riser and first in line, you could conceivably make your first reservation right at 7:30 after you tap in. But this not a wise choice if you’re not park-hopping, or you’re making reservations for this same morning park.

Why? I’m glad you asked. It’s because of crowd patterns on the west coast. Early mornings have very low crowds, relatively speaking. So the time you “save” by getting in a Lightning Lane first thing in the morning is minimal. And if you’re in a Lightning Lane, you’re wasting time that you could otherwise be in low-wait standby queues for attractions that don’t offer Genie+ (cough – all of Fantasyland – cough). Let’s take a look at what I suggest instead.

Don’t let that big beautiful mountain tempt you away from your Fantasyland morning. Don’t do it!

Morning in Disneyland with Genie+

If you’re in Disneyland for the morning (or all day) and want to use Genie+, I highly recommend rope-dropping Fantasyland. None of these attractions offer Genie+, and they will all command really high standby waits by late morning and through the rest of the day. All for relatively short-duration attractions that will leave you saying “was that really worth it?”. Think Peter Pan’s Flight (which is one of them) multiplied by 5 or 6 similar wait-to-duration-ratio attractions. I loved hitting Snow White, Pinocchio and Mr. Toad all in a row first thing in the morning with almost no waits. I would not have loved them all in a row if I had to wait 30 minutes or more for each of them.

Don’t immediately book any Genie+ reservations. You won’t want to get out of standby mode until ~90 minutes after the park opens. For that reason, I recommend watching the tip board while you’re in those shorter standby lines and waiting to book either Matterhorn or Space Mountain (both relatively nearby) when they reach return time windows of at least 9:00 am – 10:00 am, or even more ideally, 9:30 am – 10:30 am. This gives you a solid amount of time to take advantage of lower standby waits before you start your Genie+ excitement for the day.

You won’t feel … Dopey if you’re the very first car of the day for Snow White. Eh? Eh? Cheesy captions, I’ve got ’em.

For example, on our trip, Disneyland opened at 8 am. We were able to experience 5 Fantasyland attractions (Snow White, Pinocchio, Mr. Toad, Casey Jr, Mad Tea Party) all before 9 am. Around 8:45, Matterhorn was finally booking at a 9:30 am return time, so I snagged it. Then after Mad Tea Party we enjoyed it’s a small world and then were ready to hit Matterhorn at 9:25. After that point, we were still able to grab our next return time that we wanted (in this case, Indiana Jones) without it being more than an hour in the future.

This was the rope drop crowd behind us (we were right by the rope, obviously) at DCA, 15 minutes before park opening. Were we tempted to bail on the plan and immediately book Genie+? Yes. But I had to stick to the plan!!!

Morning in California Adventure with Genie+

Ride Incredicoaster? Yes. Pose like Dolores for PhotoPass? Also Yes. Use Genie+? Only in the afternoon, I say.

I’ll admit here that we didn’t use Genie+ on our California Adventure morning. Instead, we just stacked for Disneyland in the afternoon/evening. But I’ll talk about that part later. Even still, just by touring the park in the morning, I did learn some pretty key tips and tricks for Genie+ in the morning at California Adventure anyway.

Once again, don’t book anything with immediate park-open return times. Chill out a bit and enjoy your morning before beginning to redeem. Like for Disneyland, ~90 minutes after park opening is a good time for your first return window to open. Otherwise you’re wasting time in Lightning Lanes when you should be taking advantage of those low standby waits at other attractions. My personal favorite plan? Rope drop one of the two Individual Lightning Lane attractions (WEB Slingers or Radiator Springs Racers) and then use single rider for the other.

Some savvy choices to make with that first Genie+ reservation could include Guardians of the Galaxy: Mission Breakout or maaaayyyyybe Soarin’. Really I’d just go with Mission Breakout here. The Pixar Pier attractions don’t generally generate really big standby waits in the morning, so I’d just head there sometime before lunch without Genie+ and make the best of it.

Early Morning Strategy Two – Second Park Stacking!

Now let’s say that you’re definitely going to park hop when you’re eligible at 1 pm. This suddenly unlocks a totally new potential strategy, and my preferred strategy of the two. That’s totally ignoring Genie+ for your first park, and instead only stacking for the afternoon/evening. Why is that? Because stacking is awesome. The YouTube videos say so.

Ok, not really. Stacking can be great, and another rule difference at Disneyland contributes to its awesomeness here. At WDW, your 120-minute timer after making your first reservation starts when the park opens. At Disneyland, it starts when you make your first reservation. This is key. Because you can make your first reservation before the park opens! Usually, up to 30 minutes before the park opens if you time your arrival right. So instead of 2 hours after park opening, you can make your second reservation 90 minutes after park opening. That doesn’t sound like much, but it makes a big difference in the long run.

Double-bonus. Our Space Mountain reservation happened to be on debut day for Hyperspace Mountain. I rode like the cool kids do – hold my bow on my head so it didn’t fly off.

Lower demand also makes stacking for your second park feel extra wonderful. That’s because even if your first two (or three) reservations are big headliners, they probably still won’t be booking out too far past 1 pm (hopping time) in the morning. So at 7:30 (thirty minutes before park opening), I book a headliner at my second park, and it has a 1 pm return time because that’s what it automatically defaults to. At 9:30 I make a second reservation, and that headliner still isn’t booking out past 1 pm, so it also defaults to a 1 pm return time. At 11:30, I book my third headliner, and it’s only booking out to 1:30 pm right now (even that’s a stretch, honestly).

That makes it so that when I hop, I can immediately skip the line at two headliners, and by the time I get to the third, it’ll already be 1:30 pm so I can get right in line. When I get in line, I unlock another reservation, and by this point I’m down to second-tier options that are barely booking ahead of the current time. So I can start bouncing around and booking reservations that make sense and keep skipping basically all of the lines.

This is the strategy that we used for our second park day, where we hopped to Disneyland at 1 pm. We had Hyperspace Mountain and Buzz Lightyear booked at 1 pm, and Millennium Falcon: Smugglers Run for 1:30 pm. Throughout the rest of the afternoon and evening, we used almost every other potential Genie+ reservation. It was amazing.

Potential Genie+ Trick

We stumbled upon a “trick” for Genie+ at Disneyland that is almost never possible at WDW because of the high demand there. And it’s what I like to call Disneyland Downtime Dominance (because I like alliteration). Whenever you hold a Genie+ reservation for an attraction that happens to be experiencing downtime when your return window opens, you immediately get an anytime/anywhere pass (excluding Individual Lightning Lane attractions). Bonus, it doesn’t count as using a reservation at that attraction, so you can book it again if it comes up later in the day … OR … you could book it again immediately even if it’s still down.

We discovered this trick by accident. We made our Matterhorn 9:30 reservation like good little researchers, and at 9:30, Matterhorn was unexpectedly down. I checked my app, and I had the lovely anytime/anywhere pass. “How nice,” I thought to myself. “This’ll be great for our DCA afternoon later,” and then I immediately booked Indiana Jones instead. Luck was on our side and right after I booked Jones, Matterhorn came back up and we popped into the standby queue and had a 5 minute wait. No Genie needed, thank you very much.

After tapping into Indiana Jones, I noticed something funny on the Tip Board. Big Thunder Mountain had been down all morning, but was still offering Genie+ return times. And they were only 15 minutes in the future. So, I did the smart thing and I gambled. I booked it, literally hoping that it would stay down for at least 15 more minutes. Miracle of miracles (sarcasm) it stayed down and I had gotten another anytime/anywhere. And then I immediately booked it again, for another return time only 15 minutes away. And after patiently waiting for 15 minutes (actually I was paddling a canoe), I got yet another anytime/anywhere. I could’ve kept doing this and racked up all of the passes for the afternoon. But, I made a rookie mistake and felt guilty. I felt like I was cheating the system. That was silly of me. The system cheats me all of the time, it’s totally valid to try to even the score. Ha!

This typically isn’t possible at WDW because almost everything books so far in advance that waiting around for an anytime/anywhere pass isn’t worth it. But at Disneyland, because Genie+ usage is so low, there are tons of attractions booking 15-30 minutes ahead. And with downtime being such a big issue right now (more on that in a future article), it’s a pretty safe bet that something that is down will stay down for 15-30 more minutes.

One more picture – because, hey, Genie+ paid for all of these!

What Does This Mean For You?

  1. Genie+ is pretty much always worth it at Disneyland. We were there on high crowd level days, and never waited for more than 20 minutes in any line. And that was in the Lightning Lane for Mission Breakout! For context, Radiator Springs Racers was at 120 minutes most of the time we were there, and Mission Breakout got up to 180 for a while. I’ll take a maximum 20 minute wait any day.
  2. Unlike WDW, you don’t have to be racing to book your first return time if you’re staying in the same park all day. Take advantage of low standby waits first, and then get in Lightning Lanes only about ~90 minutes after the park opens.
  3. But if you’re hopping, book your first attraction as soon as you tap in. This can give you a head start on getting your 120-minute timer counting down.

Do you have any Disneyland-specific Genie+ tricks? Were my real-life examples helpful in understanding? Because if so, you should email len@touringplans.com and tell him to send me other places to test out new things too … just saying …

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Becky Gandillon

Becky Gandillon was trained in biomedical engineering, but is now a full-time data and analytics nerd. She loves problem solving and travelling. She and her husband, Jeff, live in St. Louis with their two daughters and they have Disney family movie night every Saturday. You can follow her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/becky-gandillon/ or instagram @raisingminniemes

8 thoughts on “What I Learned About Genie+ At Disneyland

  • June 15, 2022 at 11:47 am
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    Yeah I was surprised how easy it was to use Genie+ at Disneyland. Also, I’m glad you figured out the downtime trick too. We may or may not have abused it on our trip with the Matterhorn. One additional trick is that you can use an anytime/anywhere pass at rides that don’t offer Genie+. On a whim, we used one of ours on the canal boats that had a 40 minute wait.

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    • June 15, 2022 at 12:21 pm
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      Ooh, I should’ve added that part, because you’re right – it makes a HUGE difference.

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  • June 15, 2022 at 12:07 pm
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    What about using paid lightning lanes? What is the best way to included RotR in this plan?

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    • June 15, 2022 at 12:26 pm
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      I talked about my rope-drop/single rider strategy at DCA. If single rider isn’t an option for your party, rope dropping both in a row, or paying for one of them is your best bet. (But typically Single Rider saves more time than LL at either).

      For ROTR, I don’t have solid strategy. I can tell you what _we_ did. Since we only had two days and wanted to rope-drop Fantasyland, we sucked it up and paid for Rise. It doesn’t sell out very quickly, so I waited until I had Millennium Falcon booked on Genie+, and then waited to book Rise until the return times for it were almost immediately after our Falcon return time, so we’d be in the same area and wouldn’t have to bounce back two different times.

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  • June 17, 2022 at 4:59 pm
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    Weirdly specific Disneyland stacking strategy question. We’re doing a trip with folks that aren’t as keen on early rising as us. Can you stack for people who haven’t scanned into the park yet if you’re group is linked ? Could we go in early and stack our afternoon while they sleep in and join us at park 1 later on ?

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  • June 20, 2022 at 11:48 am
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    Another thought – I LOVE Guardians of the Galaxy and wanted to ride it at least twice, so when the park opened at 8 I booked a LL for 8:10-9:10. Then I went over there, walked on the ride (without using LL), got off and used my LL for the second time just as the line was growing…. so I got two rides in before 8:30 without waiting and was able to book another LL somewhere else right away.

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  • July 25, 2022 at 9:09 pm
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    Thanks so much for this series. We are planning to rope drop DL next month and the go back to our (onsite) hotel for a midday break. Since we will have tapped in at park open, can we continue to stack while we’re outside the park in the afternoon? Or do you have to be physically tapped in at any given time to make reservations? In other words, does tapping in once cover you for the entire day?

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    • July 25, 2022 at 9:45 pm
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      As long as you’ve tapped in, you’re welcome to leave the parks for a break and keep booking!

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