Why You Should Consider the “Swolphin” Rather Than A Disney Hotel
As you may be aware, in addition to the Disney hotels on Walt Disney World property, there is a non-Disney hotel complex that occupies prime real estate — the Walt Disney World Swolphin. (OK, I know that’s not a real place, but I view the Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin as largely interchangeable hotels that share common resort grounds and amenities, so this nomenclature seems more appropriate.) We’re often asked about this resort, with people wondering why someone would stay at the Swolphin rather than a “traditional” Disney hotel. As it turns out, there ARE good reasons, and I thought they were worth sharing. Read on to find out more!
First, let me give you the nuts and bolts of the properties. The Swan and Dolphin are a pair of hotels designed by architect Michael Graves in the Crescent Lake area of Walt Disney World, in walking distance from both Epcot’s International Gateway and Disney’s Hollywood Studios. They are not owned by Disney and are currently part of the Starwood chain of hotels (Sheraton, Westin, W Hotels, etc.). For branding purposes, the Swan is considered a Westin, and the Dolphin is considered a Sheraton, but they share several amenities, like the pool complex and fitness center, and in practice might as well be one big resort. The Swan is slightly more compact, but apart from that distinction, the experience at both hotels is more or less the same, and my normal practice is therefore just to book whichever one is cheaper for my dates. For more on the property, check out Steve’s recent overview of the Swan and Dolphin.
You Might Not Have to Pay
As a frequent Disney traveler, I have always lamented the fact that Disney doesn’t have any sort of rewards program like other hotel chains or airlines have where you get free nights based upon how often you go. The Swolphin, as a Starwood property, is a notable exception. This means that you get Starwood points when you stay there and, more importantly, you can USE Starwood points to book there. The upshot of this, of course, is that if you travel a decent amount for work or pleasure and you’re a member of Starwood’s Preferred Guest program, you may have points that will cover or at least offset the cost of the room. In fact, I have stayed at the Swolphin several times over the years, and only once have I actually paid for a room.
Recent developments in the travel industry opens this up even more. Marriott recently merged with Starwood, and their reward programs have been linked. This means that Marriott points can be transferred and used to book at Starwood properties (and vice versa), and if you had status with Marriott Rewards, you now have equivalent status with Starwood. What’s more, the two program’s points can be combined (subject to some limitations), so if you have some points from both programs, you may now have enough to book a free trip by merging your balances!
If You Do Pay, It Can Be a Relative Bargain
In Walt Disney World lingo, the Swan and Dolphin are considered “Deluxe” category resorts. They do not, however, always carry the same price tag as Disney’s own Deluxe resorts, and you can often book at the Swolphin for less than you would pay at any other Deluxe resort, and occasionally FAR less than the short list of Deluxe resorts that allow you to walk to a theme park. For example, picking a random long weekend in February of 2018, you could stay at the Swan for as little as $272/night (the Dolphin at the same time was $390). In contrast, the three Disney-owned Crescent Lake resorts ranged from $601-763 when I ran the numbers.
One often overlooked aspect of the Swolphin is the quality of the amenities there. For example, Stormalong Bay has a deserved reputation as one of, if not the best, pool on Disney property, but the pool situation at the Swolphin is no slouch and can hold its own with any other pool at Walt Disney World. In addition to a traditional rectangular pool near the bar (which sort of serves as the unofficial “adult” pool), there is a kiddie pool, a large-ish shallow pool for small children, and a huge free-form pool with a large water slide and waterfall-covered grotto. Yes, you can see the back side of water without waiting in line for the Jungle Cruise!
Some of the best, but least heralded, restaurants on Disney property call the Swolphin home. What’s more, they tend to be relatively easy to get into, even on short notice, particularly if you go through the resort or restaurant directly as opposed to booking through Disney. Dani did a great write up on the various food options at the resort a while back, so please take a look at that for more details.
The Dolphin also has evening child care right there on property. Club Dolphin is a kids club on the ground level of the Dolphin resort, and like the Disney-operated Clubs, it provides a great place for your children aged 4-12 to hang out while you do more adult things. While the theming is not as pronounced as it is at the Disney kids clubs, there is plenty of fun to be had there, and my daughter has loved it when we’ve taken her there. What’s more, if you are eating at bluezoo, Il Mulino New York Trattoria, or Shula’s Steak House or you are visiting the Mandara Spa, you can receive up to two free hours of time at Camp Dolphin (just bring your receipt to pick up). Otherwise, the cost is only $12 per hour, per child. Reservations are required, but I’ve never had a problem getting them, even the day I intend to use the Club.
Location, Location, Location…
Unless you plan to spend the bulk of your time at the Magic Kingdom, the Swolphin’s Crescent Lake location is tough to beat. Two parks — Epcot and Hollywood Studios — are a walk or a quick boat ride away. Moreover, while Disney Springs probably hosts the best selection of high-quality restaurants on property at the moment, Crescent Lake can certainly hold its own in this regard. As mentioned above, the restaurants at the Swolphin are some of the best around, but you’re also very close to places like Flying Fish Cafe, Yachtsman Steakhouse, and Beaches & Cream, not to mention having easy access to the cavalcade of dining options at World Showcase through the International Gateway. Add in a few unique options at Hollywood Studios like 50’s Prime Time, Sci-Fi Dine In, and Hollywood Brown Derby, and there is plenty of variety all easily accessible from the Crescent Lake area.
We pride ourselves on being objective here at TouringPlans, so in the spirit of full disclosure, there are a few reasons you might NOT want to select the Swolphin, particularly as compared to a Disney hotel:
- No Magical Express: Disney’s Magical Express Service, which provides free round-trip service from Orlando International Airport to Disney’s resorts, does not service the Swolphin. The upshot is that if you’re flying in, you’re either going to need to rent a car, or you’re going to need to arrange for transportation to the resort. An Uber should be in the neighborhood of $30-$40 per leg of your journey, with cabs costing about twice that.
- Supplemental Charges Add Up: While the Swolphin tends to be less expensive than other Deluxe properties, there are a couple of additional costs that you should factor into your calculation. The first is the resort charge, which is $28.13/day per room, which applies to all rooms. The other is parking, which costs $20/day ($28 for valet) and will only impact you if you’re driving or renting a car. Even if you book using points, you’re going to be on the hook for these charges, so make sure you’re factoring them into your calculation.
- No Magic Bands, and no resort-wide room charge: Because they are not Disney hotels, Disney does not provide you with free Magic Bands like you would get if you were staying at a Disney resort. You can buy your own (or use one from a prior trip), but they will only be good for park entry and FastPass+ — you cannot charge dining and merchandise from the parks to your room when you’re staying at the Swolphin. It’s not a big deal, but worth mentioning for those wanting the complete Walt Disney World immersion experience. Speaking of which…
- One of the most common knocks against the Swolphin is that it is less “Disney-fied” or “magical” than Disney resorts. A few minor Disney-specific touches notwithstanding, these hotels are very similar to Westin/Sheraton hotels you might find anywhere else in the world. This is something you may or may not care about (and might even be a plus, depending upon your druthers), but it’s definitely worth being aware of if you’re hoping to be awash in Disney magic 24/7 on your trip.
Important Note for Uber Users Staying at the Dolphin: This isn’t really a caveat, more of an FYI for people that use Uber to get around the resort. For whatever reason, when you ask to be picked up at the Dolphin using Uber, the Uber app inevitably directs the driver to the entrance to the Swan. It happened every single time we called for an Uber on a recent trip. The lesson, of course, is to let the driver know once they are on the way that you’re actually at the entrance to the Dolphin.
Comparing the Two
So, which one is better? As I mentioned above, I think of them as a single resort, so my normal practice is to just stay at whichever is cheaper. With that said, if they were priced the same and I had a choice, I’d probably stay at the Dolphin. For one thing, the Dolphin, with its vaulted lobby and recent renovations, just feels grander in my opinion. More pragmatically, however, many of the shared amenities — the fitness center, the quick service restaurant (Picabu), the main pool, the kid’s center, the lobby bar — are all located at the Dolphin. The resort complex is large, and walking from the Swan to the Dolphin isn’t as easy as walking across the street. According to my Fitbit, I logged slightly over a half a mile walking from my room at the Swan, to Picabu to grab some breakfast food, and back on a recent trip. Over the course of a trip, that can add up.
With that said, guests at the Swan are somewhat closer to the Boardwalk area, so depending upon what you’re planning on doing, that might be a better fit. Ultimately, the difference is negligible, and I freely stay at both without a strong preference for either.
Tip: Use the Swolphin for a Quick Weekend Getaway
I’m actually just returning from a quick weekend getaway to Walt Disney World and, as is often the case for these quick trips, I stayed at the Swolphin. As I was leaving, I remember thinking, “Man, this place is perfect for a quick trip,” and it got me to consider WHY I favor the Swolphin for weekend getaways.
Part of it is that unlike a lot of Disney hotels, you can often get a room at the Swolphin with relatively little notice. The Swan & Dolphin often do not show up as having availability in hotel search results when you’re booking directly through Disney’s web site, but you can still book there going directly through Starwood’s site. I’ve often wondered if this leads to greater availability to the extent to that it required an extra step that many travelers don’t bother to do, and, indeed, rooms can often be had on fairly short notice. It makes the Swolphin the perfect place to stay for a last-minute trip, when rooms at Disney’s hotels can be scarce.
When it comes to a quick trip, however, less immersion in the “Disney bubble” isn’t necessarily a horrible thing. For me, a quick weekend trip isn’t really long enough for me to become completely wrapped up in the magic anyway, so the relative lack of magic makes the transition away from and back to “real life” a bit easier to manage. I prefer the bubble for longer trips, but for a quick trip, the Swolphin has just enough of the outside world to keep me grounded. I know it seems paradoxical to recommend a place for the absence of Disney touches, but for a quick trip, I actually kinda prefer it. Your mileage may vary, of course, and I am 100% sure there are plenty of you that will disagree with me on this, but that’s my view on it.
So, what has your experience been? Do you like staying at the Swolphin? Do you prefer one hotel over the other? Let us know in the comments!
21 thoughts on “Why You Should Consider the “Swolphin” Rather Than A Disney Hotel”
I can’t get past how completely unDisney and ugly they are. In my opinion they ruin the view from a lot of places. The location is great I concede and if you want the combination of on site and off site then I guess they would be good.
Well, if you think they are ugly, I’m certainly not going to convince you otherwise. I’ve found that probably more than any other resort, there tends to be a pretty big divide on the aesthetics, with people either loving it or hating it. I personally fall into the former category, but I know you’re not alone in not loving the look.
Have you seen the Disney resort makeovers? I have stayed in holiday inns with more color and charm.
PROS: Location, location, location.
CONS: Extensive check-in lines, time-consuming process.
Sterile basic rooms. Balcony rooms are much better.
Parking fee is stiff (free at Disney true resorts).
Resort Fee is stiff (no resort fee at true Disney resorts)
Missing any ‘Magic’ in atmosphere and very corporate/convention.
We have stayed at the Dolphin and one thing we really liked was how quiet the rooms were. Even with the boats below and Epcot right there, with our slider closed you didn’t know it. And hall noise is minimal too. Many mornings we walked out & bumped into folks talking or kids running the halls that we never heard inside the room until we opened the door.
Yes it is less “Disney-fied” but you can’t beat it for a good night of sleep.
No idea why this ended up here…. I was trying to post a general comment 🙁
While the total cost, including fees, can be a better deal than many Disney resorts, this review doesn’t explain why the Dolphin (almost) always costs more. While Dolphin rooms have Queen beds and sinks inside and outside the bathroom, the Swan rooms have double beds and only one sink. In that way, the Swan is comparable to Value resorts!
Aaron, I believe you have that backwards. The Swan is the one with two Queens and sinks inside and outside. We just booked for next April.
That is correct. I have a current Swan booking that has two queens.
You have the beds reversed: Swan is queen-sized, Dolphin is double beds. The biggest difference between the Swalphin and Disney resorts is that there is room service and a 24 hour “Buffeteria”–not just pizza. You also have fabulous bars and fabulous, destination restaurants. I also think they are for adults. We don’t have children, travel a lot, and find the amenities more of what we expect at a higher tier hotel. You can’t beat the fact that you can almost always get a room at the last minute, and then walk to Epcot is priceless.
We’ve booked the Swalphin (I’ve always spelled it this way) for our April trip using points. I was surprised that Swalphin guests are not given the benefit of “plus 10” when making ADRs at 180 days. That hasn’t been too big a deal. I’ll be on my phone booking all of my FP+ at 60 Days our since Swalphin guests are given this benefit.
We actually prefer the Swan to most of the Disney resorts we’ve stayed at. It is a nice break from the parks to be at a nice hotel that is not .. ahem .. overrun by strollers and children. Of course children are welcome but due to the conventions it just has a calmer more adult vibe about it.
Yeah, I think it definitely has a more adult feel as compared to a lot of the Disney-owned results. With that said, my daughter still loves it and has a great time when we go. The pool is a big plus for her.
We stayed at the Swan for 10 nights all on points last March and loved it. So convenient. The pool is AWESOME! and the free kids club with dinner entree purchase worked out wonderfully. Our kids loved the club and we enjoyed a kidless evening!
I never would have considered the “Swolphin” until we were booked for a conference there last December. The holiday decorations were beautiful and the location was perfect. I was pleasantly surprised and had a really great stay. I still prefer a little more in-your-face Disney, but I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend these hotels.
The word “Swolphin” is copyright Mike Newell, 2006 – from WDW Today, episode 131. 🙂
The Swolfin(c) is beautiful to look at.
On a visit we made after they opened, my wife and I went in and looked around. They were beautifully decorated for Christmas.
An elderly couple was walking around, looking confused. We asked if they needed help. He asked “where are all the rides.”
Not sure how long they’d been looking, but I had to explain that this was an EPCOT resort, not EPCOT.
Can you book FP+ reservations 60 days out at the Swolphin, or do you have to wait for 30 days out? We usually stay at Shades of Green, which is a great value. However, it also lacks Magical Express and you cannot book FP+ until 30 days out, which is disappointing.
Yes, Swolphin guests get the 60 day FP+ benefit, as well as extra magic hours. Just make sure you link your hotel reservation to your MDE account.
We stayed at the Dolphin a couple years ago on SPG points for 2 nights. We had an Epcot view (balcony) that was awesome! These hotels have a great location & pool but the quick service restaurants are just ok. I would definitely stay again but prefer the Disney owned hotels (even value resorts) for my first pick if I’m going to spend any money. The Disney immersion is the main reason for that.
We stayed at the Dolphin last March and are returning again in a few weeks. We reused our magic bands from our last trip and arranged for transportation through Tiffany Town Car. It’s not Disney, but the beds were SO comfortable and you can’t beat the price when compared to the hotels that surround you (BW,BC, YC) and the location is ah-mazing! I love the Disney immersion, but I also love being super close to EPCOT and HS. It’s the perfect destination for our annual sister’s trip.